Pretty concerning when your livelihood is tied to things like accidents. On March 4, 2019, at 1143 eastern standard time, CommutAir flight 4933, an Embraer EMB-145XR, N14171, d.b.a. Read recent air safety reports, incidents and news about Commutair. Senator Susan Collins, the Ranking Member of the Transportation Appropriations Subcommittee, issued a statement on the release of the National Transportation Safety Boards (NTSB) final report on the missed runway incident at Presque Isle International Airport that occurred in March of 2019. We climbed out on a ladder with the help of local firefighters, he said. What should the crew have done to avoid the runway excursion and hard landing? 28 pax/3 crew. The accident took place on a snowy day in 2019 at Presque Isle International Airport. If you search the database for accidents in Presque Isle, Maine there is no mention of flight 4933. This accident occurred less than 2 weeks after the Atlas crash. Edit: Failed simulator training. Accident Number: ENG15IA024 Operator/Flight Number: United Express flight 4776 (operated by CommutAir) Aircraft and Registration: Bombardier DHC-8-202, N363PH . Interestingly (unless I'm missing something) the CVR transcript still hasn't been released. Going into MEX after midnight during thunderstorm season would have been a single pilot operation for me.I wonder how their CPP interview will go at U Was just released yesterday or day before that he completely missed the runway. Categories . United/CommutAir 4933 had departed from Newark, New Jersey, and was scheduled to land at Presque Isle at 10:49 a.m., but instead arrived about 45 minutes behind schedule. DropTank Well-Known Member May 22, 2022 #3 Roger Roger said: [1]:7[6] The airport was closed in reaction to the accident. Rather scattered individual, always leaving something in the airplane, always some drama.Then she came back to C5 after whatever happened and having upgraded in 2015, I flew with her when she was rehired. Today, U.S. United Express, landed between runway 1 and taxiway A in light to moderate snow at Northern Maine Regional Airport at Presque Isle (KPQI), Presque Isle, Maine. The subscription requires, that you sign up for an account first, then subscribe from your account. The airplane was substantially damaged. Subscribe . Radar track data show that the airplane was aligned right of runway 1 during both approaches. Date: June 5, 2015 . United/CommutAir flight 4933, a 50-seat Embraer EMB-145XR operating as United Express, was scheduled to arrive at PQI on March 4 at 10:49 a.m., according to FlightAware, but instead landed at about 11:30 a.m., and wasn't officially confirmed as having "arrived" at the airport's terminal until 12:30 p.m. Radar track data show that the airplane was aligned right of runway 1 during both approaches. Cass did say to me she will be OK when she sees Keegan, Rick Daigle said. The aircraft that arrived around 11:30 a.m. Monday also sustained unspecified damage and is remaining in place until investigators with the Federal Aviation Administration can assess the incident, Smith said. You had me till you brought up sex and skin Color. I did a bit of work in the training department at my regional. Do you think the history of the CA here will have any impact on contributing factors to future hiring practices? The first officer was 51 years old and joined CommutAir in May 2018. Lead Journalist - South America - Daniel comes to Simple Flying with many years of aviation journalism experience, having worked with Mexican publication A21, Roads & Kingdoms, El Economista and more. Instrument meteorological conditions (IMC) prevailed at the airfield, with low ceilings, fog, and blowing snow. Also big Yikes. From June 2007 to October 2008, the aircraft was operating for Delta Connection before operating once again for Continental Express until October 2010 when it commenced operations for United Express. This map shows the airport of departure and the intended destination of the flight. [1]:5. The NTSB report uses CommutAir in favor of United Express and through that, I note that nearly every article is mentioned through that convention (excluding Colgan Air Flight 3407 and a lengthy discussion about it took place if you see the archives. . Now Im working with them at a majorand guess what? United Express flight 4933, operated by CommutAir, was attempting to land on runway 1 at Presque Isle International Airport (PQI), Maine, USA, and impacted terrain to the right of the runway. Nonetheless, they didnt call for a second go-around. You must log in or register to reply here. CommutAir/United Express #UA4933 from Newark landed in Presque Isle and left the runway to the right. The NTSB has scrubbed any mention of this accident from their website. The NTSB released their findings in July of 2022. There were 28 passengers and three crew members on board. NTSB said it will document the reconstruction using 3D techniques, and the data will be archived for historical purposes. Photo: NTSB. CommutAir 4933 accident at PQI docket has been released to the public by the NTSB data.ntsb.gov This thread is archived New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast 68 44 44 comments Best EJ1134 7 mo. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. The National Transportation Safety Board (NTSB) says a United Express regional jet didn't slide off a runway in Maine it missed the runway altogether. 2008-2023 by The Aviation Herald, all rights reserved, reprint and republishing prohibited. By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. The United Embraer EMB-145XR commuter jet, which was operated by regional carrier CommutAir under the United Express banner, took off from Newark Liberty International Airport this morning at. His specialist knowledge of Latin American airlines and close relationship with the likes of Aeromexico, Avianca, Volaris brings depth to our coverage in the region. robertsky (talk) 16:45, 8 August 2022 (UTC), | b1 = , | b2 = , | b3 = , | b4 = , | b5 = , Last edited on 16 September 2022, at 14:10, https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:CommutAir_Flight_4933&oldid=1110621196, On 1 August 2022, it was proposed that this article be, This page was last edited on 16 September 2022, at 14:10. She failed her EMB-145 checkride during her initial attempt and was later placed under "increased scrutiny" by CommutAir twice. This incident at the airport in Presque Isle was very disturbing and frightening for the passengers and crew who were involved, said Senator Collins. Unfortunately, it was implemented way too late to catch things like Atlas and this, but thats the nature of the beast: reactive and years behind at best. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. Our lawyer told me that I could not say anything regarding this pilot other than "ineligible for rehire" or we could get sued for defamation(?). During a postaccident interview, the first officer stated that, when he transitioned from flight instruments to the outside during the second approach, he again saw white on white and blowing snow. Accident: Commutair E145 at Presque Isle. The pilots conversed directly with airport maintenance staff because Presque Isle International Airport did not have a local, National Transportation Safety Board Aviation Accident Final Report, "NTSB: United Express plane missed runway in Presque Isle", "5 injured after flight from Newark slides off snowy runway in Maine", "Safety board says cockpit crew caused 2019 Presque Isle crash landing", "Report: United 2019 Embraer 145 Crash Due To Pilot Misidentifying Snow Covered Runway", https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=CommutAir_Flight_4933&oldid=1120030447, This page was last edited on 4 November 2022, at 18:29. Hopefully these things wont slip through the cracks anymore. The flight was operating under the provisions of Title 14 Code of Federal Regulations Part 121 as a regularly scheduled domestic passenger from Newark International Airport (KEWR), Newark, New Jersey, to KPQI. On March 4, 2019, the Embraer EMB-145XR operating the flight touched down in a snow-covered grassy area to the right of the runway at Presque Isle International Airport, injuring three aircraft occupants and substantially damaging the aircraft. Newark-Liberty International Airport, NJ (EWR/KEWR), Presque Isle International Airport, ME (PQI/KPQI), Controlled Flight Into Terrain (CFIT) - Ground, Accident investigation report completed and information captured, Presque Isle International Airport, ME (PQI) (. By the time it exploded in midair 25 years later, it had . PRESQUE ISLE, Maine (WABI) A United Express flight had a rough landing at Presque Isle's airport Monday leaving a pilot and four passengers with minor injuries, that according to city officials. Why has literally no information been put out by the NTSB? The flight departed from Newark Liberty International Airport (EWR) with 28 passengers and three crew members. Multiple failures here. [1]:710, CommutAir and the Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) initially reported that the aircraft had touched down on the runway and then slid off, but the National Transportation Safety Board (NTSB) later clarified that the aircraft had missed the runway entirely. At least five days before the accident, six pilots who flew into PQI encountered issues with the ILS localizer. We tell them Our goal here is to overwhelm you to see how you handle it I watched one applicant put us in a 30 degree nose down tuning a radio. A review of NBA playoff history indicated that the only occurrence of an NBA playoff game 6 where Golden State was leading Memphis at halftime 58-49 was on May 15, 2015". Biggest teller? His degree in journalism allows him to form beautifully crafted and insightful pieces. The NTSB announced two investigators have been dispatched to Presque Isle to investigate the accident of the United Express Embraer ERJ-145XR. Preventing Windshield Arcing, Smoke, and Fire on Bombardier DHC-8 Airplanes . The accident closed the airport Monday, and it is not known immediately when outgoing and incoming flights will resume, she said. Ive always heard of LOFT as Lack Of Fucking Talent. A pilot and two passengers received minor injuries. This community is for discussion among pilots, students, instructors and aviation professionals. At an Appropriations hearing in July 2019, The report determined the probable causes of this accident to be, The first officers fatigue, which exacerbated his confirmation bias, and. 2017. At 11:28EST, as the aircraft descended through 200ft (61m) AGL, the minimum decision height for the approach, the captain called out "runway in sight twelve o'clock." Do you want to learn about the safety record of Commutair? On March 4, 2019, CommutAir flight 4933, operating the service for United Airlines onboard an Embraer EMB145XR, registration N14171, was attempting to land on runway 1 at Presque Isle International Airport (PQI) when it impacted terrain to the right of the runway. It was the copilot's first day on the job. that one. She was slightly ahead of me in seniority at C5, but then left for VX right before she could upgrade. The NTSB concluded that the probable cause of the accident was confirmation bias which prompted the crew to continue descending even though they had not positively identified the runway. The United flights for the Newark-Presque Isle service are operated by CommuteAir, which is partly owned by United. The pilot did not touch down on the first attempt. X File Under: <Fuel> Circulate To: General Manager Service Manager Parts Manager Service Advisors Technicians Body Shop Manager Fleet Repair X X X X SUBJECT: GROUP MODEL FUE 2017-2019MY Niro (DE HEV) NUMBER DATE 041 August 2019 TECHNICAL SERVICE BULLETIN Crew missed first approach bc something didnt look right when they went visual, then apparently just sorta yolod it on the second attempt and had some severe confirmation bias when looking at what they thought were the runway/lights. The aircraft appears intact enough to preserve the FDR and CVR. [1]:78, The aircraft ascended from a minimum altitude of 703ft (214m) mean sea level (MSL) [169ft (52m) above ground level (AGL)] to around 1,000ft (300m) MSL. Simple Flying will be at the Farnborough Airshow next week. The first officer stated "I'm staying on the flight director 'cause I don't see it yet", and the captain responded by repeating the phrase "stay in it", followed by "what the [expletive]" and the first officer saying "I dont know what Im seein'." I have to wonder if I could have been honest, if that copilot and passenger would be alive today. Reports provide details about the accident, analysis of the factual data, conclusions and the probable cause of the accident, and the related safety recommendations. What do you think about this accident? and our He had not gone to sleep until around 1:00 EST the night before the accident due to flight and shuttle delays during the preceding workday, and he had only slept until 6:00 EST, about five hours, whereas he usually slept for about eight hours. Perhaps the craziest example of this was with King Air N13LY, which didn't record the accident flight but instead "During the flight to Fort Yukon, a radio broadcast from an ESPN radio affiliate was received and recorded on channel 1 of the CVR. The flight was operating under the provisions of Title 14 Code of Federal Regulations Part 121 as a regularly scheduled domestic passenger from Newark International Airport (KEWR), Newark, New Jersey, to KPQI. The subscription is only 240 including 20% VAT per year, subscribers outside of the European Union save the VAT and pay only 200 . Rick Daigle said from the airport via an interview using Facebook messenger that passengers realized there was a problem even before the plane hit the runway. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. The runway had been plowed about ten minutes earlier. JavaScript is disabled. So we fired him. I was suppose to start a four day trip with an individual that displayed this described behavior. They also ping the FO for not using his CPAP in a few places. The scene inside the airplane as it landed was one of chaos with people screaming and seats coming apart, Daigle said. Strange incident with few details to this day. Part of the landing gear was torn away, and the nose cone was damaged. The flying pilot should have executed to go around yet did not. Get the news right onto your desktop when they happen, The human factor named "Simon Hradecky" and the team of man and machine. Daigle said his wife hit her head during the incident and once the couple returns to Fort Kent she plans to be evaluated at Northern Maine Medical Center as a precaution. [1]:5 Investigators found that the localizer antenna was surrounded by 25ft (0.611.52m) of snow; after confirming the reported localizer misalignment, the snow was cleared, and this caused correct localizer alignment to be restored. Would not be surprised to see this Captain's name associated with another incident/accident. Just because you are a pilot doesn't mean you are a good pilot and belong in a high performance part 121 aircraft!